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+<TR><TH COLSPAN="3" ALIGN="center">Python Bindings for KDE (PyKDE-3.16.0)</TH></TR>
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+<h1>Troubleshooting</h1>
+<h2>Introduction</h2>
+<p>
+(There are distribution-specific notes at the end of this page)
+</p>
+<p>
+Before each release, PyKDE is test built against SuSE, Red Hat and Mandrake Linux distributions,
+and various versions of Python, Qt and KDE. Even after performing test builds, errors still can
+occur with your installation. The most common sources of errors are (roughly in order of occurance):
+</p>
+<ul>
+<li>Differences in user environments</li>
+<li>Differences between distributions (or even between different builds of same version of the same distribution</li>
+<li>Bugs - in PyKDE or any of the software it's based on (KDE, Qt, PyQt, sip, or even Python)</li>
+</ul>
+<h2>Reporting errors -- PLEASE READ!</h2>
+<p>
+The people on the PyKDE mailing list are knowledgeable about Python, PyQt,and PyKDE and are
+genuinely helpful. You shouldn't hesitate to post a question or problem there (you may hear
+"RTFM" occasionally, but not often). Chances are that someone using your distribution is already
+posting to the list.
+</p>
+<p>
+The most important thing you can do when reporting an installation error is to include the
+configure.py output with your question, including the error message at the point of failure.
+All configure.py messages write to stdout, so if you can't cut and paste the output, you can do:
+</p>
+<table border="0" bgcolor="#E0E0E0" width="100%">
+<tr>
+<td>
+<pre CLASS="PROGRAMLISTING">
+ python configure.py > output.txt
+</pre>
+</td>
+</tr>
+</table>
+<p>
+to capture the output and attach the file to your post. In many cases, if you don't include
+this info, the first response to your question will be to ask for the configure.py output. Including
+it with your original post will save several hours or days in the process of obtaining an answer.
+</p>
+<p>
+Bug reports are a vital part of any software development process. We generally try to provide
+an immediate fix or work-around for problems reported, and then incorporate the fix into
+future releases. Bug reports are always welcome (and always embarrassing).
+</p>
+<p>
+If you are reporting PyKDE run-time errors (not install errors), there's no need to include
+the configure.py output, but <b>at a minimum</b> you should indicate what PyKDE version the error
+occurred with and provide a <i>small</i> code sample that reproduces the error.
+</p>
+<h2>If you perform repairs ...</h2>
+<p>
+If you edit any of the sip files to repair bugs or modify PyKDE, you <b>must</b> re-run
+configure.py. configure.py includes code that generates the actual C++ code that compiles to PyKDE.
+If you don't re-run configure.py, changes to the sip files will have no effect.
+</p>
+<h2>configure.py and make errors</h2>
+<dl>
+<dt>"Can't find a file or directory"</dt>
+<dd>
+configure.py first checks to make sure that it can locate and access all of the components PyKDE
+depends on. If the directories or files aren't where configure.py thinks they should be, an error
+will result and configure.py will exit. Usually these kinds of problems can be solved by adding
+command line switches when running configure.py - see the <a href="switches.html">next page</a> for
+the available command line options
+</dd>
+<dt>"Can't write ..." or "Can't create ..."</dt>
+<dd>
+build.py creates a number of directories and generates Makefiles and a lot of C++ code
+(customized for your system). If the user running build.py doesn't have write access to
+the directories where PyKDE sources were installed, the build will fail. You need to either
+obtain write access, relocate PyKDE someplace where you have write access or (worst choice)
+build PyKDE as root.
+</dd>
+<dt>"Can't remove or create directory"</dt>
+<dd>
+This happens rarely, but is a quirk of the PyKDE build process. PyKDE will build and make
+as an unprivileged user BUT if you did a build of PyKDE previously as root and then attempt
+to build PyKDE again as a user, the build will fail. The reason is that configure.py creates a
+number of directories and a lot of files. The next time configure.py runs, it will try to delete
+these directories and files before re-creating them. If the original directories and files
+were owned by root, a user will be unable to delete them and configure.py will fail if run as
+a user in that case.
+</dd>
+<dt>"Can't find PyQt sip files"</dt>
+<dd>
+You did install them, right? If you build PyQt from sources, the sip files will be there
+somewhere (by default, PyQt installs the PyQt sip files in /usr/share/PyQt if built from
+source). When you find them, you can tell configure.py where they are with a switch (see
+<a href="switches.html">next page</a>). If you installed PyQt from RPMs (either downloaded or
+from your distribution), the sip files are usually in a "devel" RPM for PyQt, which also needs
+to be installed if you want to build PyKDE from sources.
+</dd>
+<dt>Code generation errors</dt>
+<dd>
+The PyKDE sources are mostly "sip" files which describe the interface to KDE's C++ libraries
+to the sip code generator. These files should be error free. If a sip or code generation error occurs,
+please report it to the PyKDE mailing list at <A HREF="mailto:PyKDE@mats.imk.fraunhofer.de">
+PyKDE@mats.imk.fraunhofer.de </A> Subscribe to the list
+<a href="http://mats.imk.fraunhofer.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde">here</a>
+</dd>
+<dt>Compile errors</dt>
+<dd>
+PyKDE should not experience any compile errors. Currently sip 4.0 based compiles will
+generate a number of warnings - these can be safely ignored. If errors occur, please report them
+to the PyKDE mailing list at <A HREF="mailto:PyKDE@mats.imk.fraunhofer.de"> PyKDE@mats.imk.fraunhofer.de </A>.
+Subscribe to the list <a href="http://mats.imk.fraunhofer.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde">here</a>
+</dd>
+</dl>
+<h2>Compile-time errors</h2>
+<p>
+PyKDE takes a long time to compile on some hardware, however no single module should take more than 25-30
+minutes on any but the slowest hardware. Some gcc versions (for example gcc 4.0.1 on SuSE 10) will hang
+if PyKDE C++ files have been generated in "concatenated" mode (see Installation and Switches pages for
+more info). If you are using concatenated mode (each module consists of a single large file, instead of
+many small files) and PyKDE's compilation hangs, re-run configure.py with the -i switch, then re-run make.
+</p>
+<p>
+PyKDE attempts to identify gcc versions that have problems and select the correct mode automatically.
+</p>
+<h2>Run-time errors</h2>
+<dl>
+<dt>importTest.py errors</dt>
+<dd>
+<p>
+All that importTest.py does is try to import each of the PyKDE modules. The most common error that
+occurs when running importTest.py is that an unresolved symbol in one of the modules prevents the
+module from loading. This can occur because not all KDE library versions contain all of the "official" KDE
+classes and members. Although it doesn't occur often, 1 missing method (out of over 10,000) will
+prevent a module from loading, and also prevent other modules that depend on the failing module
+from loading. The error message will normally print a "mangled" version of the missing method's name:
+</p>
+<table border="0" width="100%">
+<tr>
+<td>
+<pre CLASS="PROGRAMLISTING">
+ &gt; ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/libkdecorecmodule.so:
+ &gt; undefined symbol: _ZNK10KAboutData18copyrightStatementEv
+</pre>
+</td>
+</tr>
+</table>
+<p>
+You can decipher the mangled name to a class and method (in the example above,
+KAboutData::copyrightStatement) by running:
+</p>
+<table border="0" width="100%">
+<tr>
+<td>
+<pre CLASS="PROGRAMLISTING">
+ c++filt &lt;symbolname&gt;
+
+ for example:
+
+ c++filt _ZNK10KAboutData18copyrightStatementEv
+</pre>
+</td>
+</tr>
+</table>
+<p>
+If you can locate the sip file for the class, you can comment out ("//") the missing method, and recompile
+(including re-running <i>configure.py</i>. If you can't solve the problem (and even if you do) you should
+report it on the PyKDE mailing list at <A HREF="mailto:PyKDE@mats.imk.fraunhofer.de">
+PyKDE@mats.imk.fraunhofer.de </A>. Subscribe to the list
+</p>
+<a href="http://mats.imk.fraunhofer.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde">here</a>
+</dd>
+<dt>Other run-time errors</dt>
+<dd>
+At present only the most likely failure modes of PyKDE are tested (contributions of tests/test code
+are greatly appreciated). Nearly all of PyKDE is completely machine generated from the KDE h files,
+so coding errors are rare but they do happen. PyKDE also uses some classes and methods differently
+because it's running from Python and not C++. If you suspect an error, please double-check your
+code and review the PyKDE docs to be sure the argument lists and expected return types are what you
+thought they were. If the problem persists, report it to the PyKDE mailing list at
+ <A HREF="mailto:PyKDE@mats.imk.fraunhofer.de"> PyKDE@mats.imk.fraunhofer.de </A>. Subscribe to the list
+<a href="http://mats.imk.fraunhofer.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde">here</a>. <b>When reporting errors to the
+list, it's always helpful if you provide:</b>
+<ul>
+<li>
+the version of PyKDE you're using
+</li>
+<li>
+ a <i>small</i> sample of code that produces the problem.
+</li>
+</ul>
+It's not particularly important whether the error is a PyKDE error or a user error (although
+I prefer seeing user errors rather than my own).
+</dd>
+</dl>
+<h2>Distribution-specific Notes</h2>
+<h3>SuSE 8.0/8.1</h3>
+<p>
+During testing of PyKDE for KDE 3.x.x on SuSE 8.0 and 8.1 I
+ran into problems with the kjs module insisting on linking to
+the KDE2 version of libkjs.so instead of the KDE3. The lib
+name/version is the same in both cases, but the libs aren't
+compatible. The only solution I found was to:
+</p>
+<p>
+1.Edit (as root) /etc/ld.so.conf from this:
+</p>
+<table border="0" bgcolor="#E0E0E0" width="100%">
+<tr>
+<td>
+<pre CLASS="PROGRAMLISTING">
+ /opt/kde
+ /opt/kde2
+ /opt/kde3
+</pre>
+</td>
+</tr>
+</table>
+<p>
+ to this:
+</p>
+<table border="0" bgcolor="#E0E0E0" width="100%">
+<tr>
+<td>
+<pre CLASS="PROGRAMLISTING">
+ /opt/kde3
+ /opt/kde
+ /opt/kde2
+</pre>
+</td>
+</tr>
+</table>
+<p>
+2. Run (as root) ldconfig
+</p>
+<p>
+3. Re-link. You can save having to rebuild PyKDE and recompile
+by simply going into the PyKDE-3.x.x/kjs directory and deleteing
+kjshuge.o (or any *.o in the directory) and then rerunning make
+and make install (this forces a recompile/relink of the kjs module
+only, which is very fast) Don't run configure.py before trying this,
+or everything will recompile.
+</p>
+<p>
+Alternatively, if you don't plan on using kjs, you can simply
+ignore the fact that it's mis-linked - it won't affect any
+other module.
+</p>
+<h3>SuSE 8.2/9.0</h3>
+<p>
+Some (but by no means all) versions of the KDE rpms for recent SuSE distributions appear
+to have been built with a different version of kfileshare.h than what they ship with. This
+version is also in disagreement with the "official" KDE version (as found in the kdelib
+source files on kde.org, for example). The "incorrect" versions use a setShared(...) method
+with a different argument list that doesn't match the h files.
+</p>
+<p>
+To fix this problem, all versions of the setShared method should be commented out in
+kfileshare.sip.
+</p>
+<h3>Mandrake 9.1</h3><h4>(rpm install - PyKDE-3.8, not 3.11 so far)</h4>
+<p>
+Some people have had trouble with the Mandrake 9.1 rpms/KDE libs. All
+distributions modify KDE in some way and where feasible, PyKDE is
+set up to build with the least common denominator.
+</p>
+<p>
+The following exchange is from the PyKDE mailing list. The reply is
+from Simon Edwards:
+</p>
+<table border="0" width="100%">
+<tr>
+<td>
+<pre CLASS="PROGRAMLISTING">
+ &gt; I'm trying to setup PyKDE on my Mandrake 9.1/python 2.2 box but so far I
+
+ &gt; ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/libkdecorecmodule.so:
+ &gt; undefined symbol: _ZNK10KAboutData18copyrightStatementEv
+
+ Let me guess. You are using the original KDE version that came with Mandrake
+ 9.1. :) yeah, there is a problem and the PyKDE rpms for mandrake don't work
+ with that version.
+
+ What you can do is update your KDE to 3.1.4. That should work. I'm using 3.1.2
+ here. You can go here:
+
+ <a href="http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php"> http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php</a>
+
+ and follow the directions and remember to select 'Texstar'. Now you will be
+ able to upgrade KDE using the Mandrake Install tool. Open up the Mandrake
+ Control Center and go to Install Software, do a search on "kde" and you
+ should get a big long list of KDE packages. Select the 3.1.4-tex2 ones and
+ when you are ready hit 'install'. and wait, and wait. :-)
+</pre>
+</td>
+</tr>
+</table>
+<p>
+</p>
+<h3>Mandrake 10.x</h3>
+<p>
+Some people have had trouble compiling with Mandrake 10.x. Mandrake provides a few "non-standard"
+h files. This only affects 3 or 4 methods, but is enough to prevent PyKDE from building. PyKDE 4.0
+includes patches that should eliminate this problem.
+</p>
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